MATH 61
Introduction to Discrete Structures
Description: Lecture, three hours; discussion, one hour. Requisites: courses 31A, 31B. Not open for credit to students with credit for course 180 or 184. Discrete structures commonly used in computer science and mathematics, including sets and relations, permutations and combinations, graphs and trees, induction. P/NP or letter grading.
Units: 4.0
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Well Bateman was actually a pretty good teacher. The main problem with this course is that if you miss a class or dont understand something the book really does not help that much at all. I had to ask the T.A. a lot for help. Also the homeworks are pretty hard but short, I needed to visit the T.A. a lot about those. The tests are actually really hard, except wasn't too bad but the average on all of them was around 50 so he curves them nicely. I would focus on getting as many questions fully right as possible instead of bullshitting as many answers as possible. So quality over volume kind of deal, not too much partial credit.
Well Bateman was actually a pretty good teacher. The main problem with this course is that if you miss a class or dont understand something the book really does not help that much at all. I had to ask the T.A. a lot for help. Also the homeworks are pretty hard but short, I needed to visit the T.A. a lot about those. The tests are actually really hard, except wasn't too bad but the average on all of them was around 50 so he curves them nicely. I would focus on getting as many questions fully right as possible instead of bullshitting as many answers as possible. So quality over volume kind of deal, not too much partial credit.
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I took Math 61 with Professor Butler last quarter (Fall 08)--and I have to say, it was one of the best math classes I have ever taken at UCLA. Professor Butler is very organized in lectures, clearly knows the topic really well, and is really funny in lectures. Sure, sometimes the lectures could get a bit dry, but hey, it's math. If Professor Butler is teaching any of your required courses, I strongly recommend him as your top choice.
I took Math 61 with Professor Butler last quarter (Fall 08)--and I have to say, it was one of the best math classes I have ever taken at UCLA. Professor Butler is very organized in lectures, clearly knows the topic really well, and is really funny in lectures. Sure, sometimes the lectures could get a bit dry, but hey, it's math. If Professor Butler is teaching any of your required courses, I strongly recommend him as your top choice.
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Winter 2019 - Uh this professor doesn't know jack and can only recite definitions from the textbook, but expects us to do proofs... so tldr don't take him unless you understand the material already because the textbook isn't clear and the professor doesn't teach. Also, if your TA is Ben, be ready to ask a question and then have take an hour to work it out with you by asking YOU how to do each step, which you most likely won't know how to do because you're asking the TA the question.... TLDR: don't take this prof and go to another TA other than ben :)
Winter 2019 - Uh this professor doesn't know jack and can only recite definitions from the textbook, but expects us to do proofs... so tldr don't take him unless you understand the material already because the textbook isn't clear and the professor doesn't teach. Also, if your TA is Ben, be ready to ask a question and then have take an hour to work it out with you by asking YOU how to do each step, which you most likely won't know how to do because you're asking the TA the question.... TLDR: don't take this prof and go to another TA other than ben :)
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Winter 2025 - I would not recommend taking the class with this professor every time I went to lecture I left more confused then when I came into class. The biggest problem was I just could not understand him because of his heavy accent, and it was so hard to understand what he was saying and then further understand the concepts he was explaining. I could have gone to discussion more and that would have helped me grade so that is my fault but it was very difficult to learn anything was it didn't even seem like the professor was speaking English (which is okay if someone has a heavy accent it just becomes a problem as a professor because you need the capacity to explain things well and clearly). It also didn't help that his handwriting was not that good and it was also hard to read his lecture notes and things he wrote on the board. The lectures were also not recorded which would have helped tremendously unfortunately.
Winter 2025 - I would not recommend taking the class with this professor every time I went to lecture I left more confused then when I came into class. The biggest problem was I just could not understand him because of his heavy accent, and it was so hard to understand what he was saying and then further understand the concepts he was explaining. I could have gone to discussion more and that would have helped me grade so that is my fault but it was very difficult to learn anything was it didn't even seem like the professor was speaking English (which is okay if someone has a heavy accent it just becomes a problem as a professor because you need the capacity to explain things well and clearly). It also didn't help that his handwriting was not that good and it was also hard to read his lecture notes and things he wrote on the board. The lectures were also not recorded which would have helped tremendously unfortunately.
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