Professor Orren's class was very disorganized and not a very pleasant experience. She made students sometimes stay over the allowed time. It was mostly rambling and very boring discussion. The good thing about it was the amount of work involved. It was not very intense but it was extremely boring. Since my class was a seminar and very small it also depended on the students who were also boring and devoid of any intelligent and entertaining argument. So I qualify the class as boring maybe Orren would have been more entertaining and appealing in a different setting.