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Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
Grade distributions are collected using data from the UCLA Registrar’s Office.
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As is well-known, this class was horrible. Labs almost every week with almost no direction and covering many disparate topics. I had Tameez Latib as my TA, and he was good, but there's only so much you can so when the content and structure of the class is so bad. It's a really great thing that this class was discontinued and replaced by CS 97.
I did not like this class very much. I thought the material was very very important, but I feel like the online format combined with Eggert's brand of more chaotic teaching methods were not a good fit. The TAs were really nice.
The most important thing I got out of this class was I made a bunch of friends doing the project together, and I feel like I got a good overview of SWE.
The worst part of this class by far was the tests and the very non-transparent grading. The test averages were abysmal. The curve was a lot harsher this quarter, too, probably because projects were worth more than usual (15% as opposed to ~5%).
Overall, 5/10 class. Get through it and you will be a better computer scientist. It's like a light hazing.
There's a project each week, so 10 assignments total over the quarter.
Each project covers that week's lecture of some new cs topic (i.e. shell scripting, ssh, linux, system calls). The projects really don't require much time, but each one requires that you understand that particular cs topic well and getting a good grasp of it in one week might be difficult at times.
The final is hard, but honestly pretty doable and partial credit is key to getting a solid score.
This class, even though they have made some assignments much shorter, is still a lot of work and the last assignment is worth 5% of your grade and you're only given a week to handle it ( with some research presentation and still trying to study for finals). Also, it doesn't help that his final will absolutely destroy you. Extremely difficult and just all round horrible. My best advice is to start looking on the material from now, give yourself a head start, you'll need it.
35L has a bad reputation for a reason. I just took CS 111, and the workloads are pretty much the same except for the readings--which is insane. The TAs try their best to teach whatever language you're covering in two days, but there isn't much you can cram of the basics of C/python/Bash in four hours while also covering the spec. The specs are often confusing and in the case of my specific quarter, wrong (we had to check a google doc instead for one lab). If you have a bad TA, just go to a good one--your grade depends on it! You don't get your grades back before the next project and a few rely on the previous project. There isn't a test script like with 111 so if your program is consistently slightly wrong, you're screwed. Also,The beaglebone is used once and it costs $100. Overall, this class is trial by fire.
Oh boy! Now that I've completed the infamous 35L, I legit feel like I am ready to tackle ANYTHING. This course is ABSOLUTELY broken, and no other will probably ever top this one. My man Eggert made ANOTHER new assignment this quarter (aside from the insanely impossible Assignment 9), and the workload became even harder than ever before.
I am glad that I took this during S20 -- probably the wisest decision I've ever made so far. The grading was much quicker than any of the previous quarters, and the final was MUCH simpler. The average is around 70%, which is honestly unprecedented in an Eggert course.
I somehow ended up with a raw score of 94% total, but that still wasn't enough to get an A+ in the class. Guess that was just never an option to begin with... :(
I will recommend my TA Ritam, since he was completely reasonable with the Assignment 10 grading, and his lectures are very informative. However, sometimes it will be useful to use slides from other labs as well -- since each TA makes their own, and the information often differs quite a bit.
Lastly, quote the TA Daniel:
"The almighty egg"
I thought this course would be way worse than it actually ended up being. They kinda fixed it a little bit by giving way more hints on assignments so you aren't just roaming the stackoverflow forest of information with no clue what to even search about. Now you have something to search before you mindlessly wander the internet trying to figure out the assignments. The assignments are still really time consuming ~10-20 hours per week and sometimes longer on the really hard assignments but the TA's did say assignment averages are higher this quarter because of the hints so they are clearly helpful. The final wasn't nearly as bad during my quarter (first corona online quarter) since the average was a 70 while eggert said he normally aims for a 50. It was less about c programming than past quarters and more about explanation of topics and how interactions would work. Ultimately I think the class is easier now but its still time consuming . That being said, I learned a ridiculous amount in this class and would recommend it because of how it just alters your workflow through technologies and software you can add to your repertoire.
35L is worth and important. People like to hate on the class, but ultimately the assignments hit important concepts and if you do them well, you'll learn a lot!
Comment on the final: if you don't get behind and learn the content of the assignments as they come, you'll still need to study for the final (for many hours). So, it will be tough and don't get behind.
Comment on the TAs: Joe Halabi, Daniel Meirovitch, Ritah Sarmah, Madhu K. were all competent imo. I think Daniel Meirovitch was the best and most experienced while Joe Halabi was the harshest grader (which only impacts Assignment 10). But any objectively graded assignments are curved across your section, so don't worry too much about that.
I think most of the sentiments echoed in previous reviews hold true for me. The course IS tough, the workload IS heavy, it is extremely frustrating dealing with some of the requirements, and you WILL bang your head on the table. Sometimes the grading seems arbitrary. Sometimes you put in far more work than you feel your grade acknowledges. Sometimes you hate the way the TA's respond to you or your classmates. As far as all of that goes, nothing seems to have changed about the course compared to previous reviews.
I will say, however, that I am happy to have learned everything we went over in the course. It's nice to simply know the stuff, but it's even better to understand WHY and HOW. The knowledge of the material is not divorced from the knowledge you need in other courses. In fact, there was a surprising amount of overlap between classes I have taken and will need to take. The main difference is that this class is less theoretical, and focusses on more practical aspects of software and systems. Many people complain about how little practical application we get at UCLA. I think this course definitely satisfies the need, albeit in a difficult manner.
If you learn to enjoy the material, and you can get past the (sometimes) arbitrary grading (I got many low scores, but still got the A), then you should be alright.
As is well-known, this class was horrible. Labs almost every week with almost no direction and covering many disparate topics. I had Tameez Latib as my TA, and he was good, but there's only so much you can so when the content and structure of the class is so bad. It's a really great thing that this class was discontinued and replaced by CS 97.
I did not like this class very much. I thought the material was very very important, but I feel like the online format combined with Eggert's brand of more chaotic teaching methods were not a good fit. The TAs were really nice.
The most important thing I got out of this class was I made a bunch of friends doing the project together, and I feel like I got a good overview of SWE.
The worst part of this class by far was the tests and the very non-transparent grading. The test averages were abysmal. The curve was a lot harsher this quarter, too, probably because projects were worth more than usual (15% as opposed to ~5%).
Overall, 5/10 class. Get through it and you will be a better computer scientist. It's like a light hazing.
There's a project each week, so 10 assignments total over the quarter.
Each project covers that week's lecture of some new cs topic (i.e. shell scripting, ssh, linux, system calls). The projects really don't require much time, but each one requires that you understand that particular cs topic well and getting a good grasp of it in one week might be difficult at times.
The final is hard, but honestly pretty doable and partial credit is key to getting a solid score.
This class, even though they have made some assignments much shorter, is still a lot of work and the last assignment is worth 5% of your grade and you're only given a week to handle it ( with some research presentation and still trying to study for finals). Also, it doesn't help that his final will absolutely destroy you. Extremely difficult and just all round horrible. My best advice is to start looking on the material from now, give yourself a head start, you'll need it.
35L has a bad reputation for a reason. I just took CS 111, and the workloads are pretty much the same except for the readings--which is insane. The TAs try their best to teach whatever language you're covering in two days, but there isn't much you can cram of the basics of C/python/Bash in four hours while also covering the spec. The specs are often confusing and in the case of my specific quarter, wrong (we had to check a google doc instead for one lab). If you have a bad TA, just go to a good one--your grade depends on it! You don't get your grades back before the next project and a few rely on the previous project. There isn't a test script like with 111 so if your program is consistently slightly wrong, you're screwed. Also,The beaglebone is used once and it costs $100. Overall, this class is trial by fire.
Oh boy! Now that I've completed the infamous 35L, I legit feel like I am ready to tackle ANYTHING. This course is ABSOLUTELY broken, and no other will probably ever top this one. My man Eggert made ANOTHER new assignment this quarter (aside from the insanely impossible Assignment 9), and the workload became even harder than ever before.
I am glad that I took this during S20 -- probably the wisest decision I've ever made so far. The grading was much quicker than any of the previous quarters, and the final was MUCH simpler. The average is around 70%, which is honestly unprecedented in an Eggert course.
I somehow ended up with a raw score of 94% total, but that still wasn't enough to get an A+ in the class. Guess that was just never an option to begin with... :(
I will recommend my TA Ritam, since he was completely reasonable with the Assignment 10 grading, and his lectures are very informative. However, sometimes it will be useful to use slides from other labs as well -- since each TA makes their own, and the information often differs quite a bit.
Lastly, quote the TA Daniel:
"The almighty egg"
I thought this course would be way worse than it actually ended up being. They kinda fixed it a little bit by giving way more hints on assignments so you aren't just roaming the stackoverflow forest of information with no clue what to even search about. Now you have something to search before you mindlessly wander the internet trying to figure out the assignments. The assignments are still really time consuming ~10-20 hours per week and sometimes longer on the really hard assignments but the TA's did say assignment averages are higher this quarter because of the hints so they are clearly helpful. The final wasn't nearly as bad during my quarter (first corona online quarter) since the average was a 70 while eggert said he normally aims for a 50. It was less about c programming than past quarters and more about explanation of topics and how interactions would work. Ultimately I think the class is easier now but its still time consuming . That being said, I learned a ridiculous amount in this class and would recommend it because of how it just alters your workflow through technologies and software you can add to your repertoire.
35L is worth and important. People like to hate on the class, but ultimately the assignments hit important concepts and if you do them well, you'll learn a lot!
Comment on the final: if you don't get behind and learn the content of the assignments as they come, you'll still need to study for the final (for many hours). So, it will be tough and don't get behind.
Comment on the TAs: Joe Halabi, Daniel Meirovitch, Ritah Sarmah, Madhu K. were all competent imo. I think Daniel Meirovitch was the best and most experienced while Joe Halabi was the harshest grader (which only impacts Assignment 10). But any objectively graded assignments are curved across your section, so don't worry too much about that.
I think most of the sentiments echoed in previous reviews hold true for me. The course IS tough, the workload IS heavy, it is extremely frustrating dealing with some of the requirements, and you WILL bang your head on the table. Sometimes the grading seems arbitrary. Sometimes you put in far more work than you feel your grade acknowledges. Sometimes you hate the way the TA's respond to you or your classmates. As far as all of that goes, nothing seems to have changed about the course compared to previous reviews.
I will say, however, that I am happy to have learned everything we went over in the course. It's nice to simply know the stuff, but it's even better to understand WHY and HOW. The knowledge of the material is not divorced from the knowledge you need in other courses. In fact, there was a surprising amount of overlap between classes I have taken and will need to take. The main difference is that this class is less theoretical, and focusses on more practical aspects of software and systems. Many people complain about how little practical application we get at UCLA. I think this course definitely satisfies the need, albeit in a difficult manner.
If you learn to enjoy the material, and you can get past the (sometimes) arbitrary grading (I got many low scores, but still got the A), then you should be alright.
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